User talk:Pi.1415926535/Archive 10
This is an archive of past discussion threads on User talk:Pi.1415926535, from May 2018 (the end of Archive 9) to March 2019. Please don't modify it. If you wish to revive a discussion, please start a new section on my main talk page and link to the discussion here.
Highland Branch
[edit]I got sidetracked categorizing articles and began writing up a proper article for the Highland Branch at User:Mackensen/Highland Branch. I think that's the proper name for it; it was called the Newton Highlands Branch or the Newton Circuit Railroad early on but both names fell out of use by the mid-20th century. I was planning to replace the redirect and then cut down the history section on Green Line "D" Branch. Mackensen (talk) 02:19, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Mackensen: That looks great; I'll add to it where I can. Have you come across any mention of whether there was a station at Brookline Junction (possibly known as Beacon Street or Mill Dam) prior to Yawkey station? It's listed as such in The Rail Line of Southern New England, and I've seen a few oblique mentions, but I can't wrestle up any solid information. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:17, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Also, can you move Newton Highlands station (MBTA) to Newton Highlands station, and Newton Centre station (MBTA) to Newton Centre station? There's no need for disambiguation; Newton Railroad Stations Historic District is best served as a summary page (which I've now converted it to) rather than a second copy of the station histories. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 09:26, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- I don't remember seeing anything specific about Brookline Junction, but I'll keep an eye out. Happy to merge up those station histories; the separation was bothering me. Mackensen (talk) 11:24, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Is there a time frame on this supposed predecessor of Yawkey? Here's a map of Brookline from 1855: [1]. There's nothing at Brookline Junction; in fact there doesn't seem to be much in the way of human habitation there. Mostly swamp. Longwood is the first station on the branch, followed by Brookline, Cypress Street (Brookline Hills), Brighton Street (Reservoir), then the map ends. On the main line the first station west of Brookline Junction is something called Cottage Farm station, at the corner of Essex and Brighton, before Grand Junction. Ochsner does identify a Beacon Street station, but as a prior name for Waban. Mackensen (talk) 14:47, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Confirmed: Beacon Street. Here's an Official Guide from 1894: [2]. It was beyond Chapel. Also, here's a ward map from 1895 which shows a station just beyond the junction, but on the Highland Branch: [3]. That's probably Beacon Street. I'm finding these maps courtesy of http://www.oldmapsonline.org. Neither Chapel nor Beacon Street is listed in my 1904 Official Guide. However, this map from 1894 doesn't show a station there, nor Chapel. Mackensen (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for all the help! Chapel was definitely closed (merged with a relocated Longwood) in 1893, so that part makes sense. This 1873 map shows a platform, but in a location that makes more sense for freight. This 1902 book lists Brookline Junction as a station, as does this 1903 map and some 1891 and 1894 maps, and this book indicates a Mill Dam station in the very early years. So my sense is that the station existed in two iterations: "Mill Dam" for a short period after the railroad first opened (before the Brookline Branch opened, that would have been the most logical station location to serve Brookline Village), and "Beacon Street"/"Brookline Junction" in the 1890s and early 1900s (likely in response to the 1894 arrival of electric trolley service to what is now Kenmore Square). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:51, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'm dubious of the Lippincott book; Brookline Junction is also in this edition from 1880, and we know there wasn't a depot there at that time. I think station is being used more in the sense of a "named place on the line" than in the sense of a depot. Charles Robinson doesn't mention a station there in his article in House & Garden from 1902, and I think he would have if it still existed. The 1903 map is odd. If there was a station there, it was called Beacon Street, not Brookline Junction, and it would have been about a block west up the Highland Branch and not on the main line. I've been unable to find anything in the newspapers from the period about a station opening or closing in that area, although there are relatively few Massachusetts papers in the archives to which I have access. I'm more and more puzzled by the absence of information. Mackensen (talk) 13:15, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- With a handful of exceptions (Lynn station notable among them), station openings and closings in Massachusetts prior to the MBTA era were very poorly documented. I've had a hell of a time with BRB&L stations, and even with Brockton station (MBTA) I haven't been able to get more accurate than "early 1897". The Massachusetts Board of Railroad Commissioners annual reports of the era (which are mostly available on Google Books) do note some station closures and relocations. I'll take a look at them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:49, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'm dubious of the Lippincott book; Brookline Junction is also in this edition from 1880, and we know there wasn't a depot there at that time. I think station is being used more in the sense of a "named place on the line" than in the sense of a depot. Charles Robinson doesn't mention a station there in his article in House & Garden from 1902, and I think he would have if it still existed. The 1903 map is odd. If there was a station there, it was called Beacon Street, not Brookline Junction, and it would have been about a block west up the Highland Branch and not on the main line. I've been unable to find anything in the newspapers from the period about a station opening or closing in that area, although there are relatively few Massachusetts papers in the archives to which I have access. I'm more and more puzzled by the absence of information. Mackensen (talk) 13:15, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for all the help! Chapel was definitely closed (merged with a relocated Longwood) in 1893, so that part makes sense. This 1873 map shows a platform, but in a location that makes more sense for freight. This 1902 book lists Brookline Junction as a station, as does this 1903 map and some 1891 and 1894 maps, and this book indicates a Mill Dam station in the very early years. So my sense is that the station existed in two iterations: "Mill Dam" for a short period after the railroad first opened (before the Brookline Branch opened, that would have been the most logical station location to serve Brookline Village), and "Beacon Street"/"Brookline Junction" in the 1890s and early 1900s (likely in response to the 1894 arrival of electric trolley service to what is now Kenmore Square). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:51, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Can’t Login into Commons
[edit]I need some help. I can’t log in to Wikimedia Commons. No matter how many times I tried, the server keeps on saying, "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form." And I can’t resubmit the form no matter how many times I try. Do you think you can do anything to help me get back on to Commons?
—Davidng913 (talk) 00:39, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Davidng913: Unfortunately, that's a technical issue rather than an administrative issue, so there's nothing I can do. It appears to be a database problem that hopefully should be temporary. If it continues for more than a day, you can file a bug report on Phabricator. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
History of rail in Dedham
[edit]A few weeks ago I tried to cobble together information from other articles and create History of rail in Dedham, Massachusetts. Given your expertise, if you want to take a look at it, clean it up, make corrections, ec., it would be very much appreciated. Thanks! --BrianCUA (talk) 18:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Briancua: I saw the article when you created it, and I've been meaning to do some work with it. My main concern is that the vast majority of the information doesn't actually belong in that article - it belongs in the articles about the individual stations and lines, particularly Dedham Branch and Dedham station, rather than in an article based on arbitrary geographic bounds. I understand that you are trying to write a series of articles on Dedham history, but this article is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole - better to make those two above-linked articles high quality, rather than duplicating them almost in their entirety here.
- There is some argument for being able to present a cohesive history of the branches from Readville, West Roxbury, and Islington/Dedham Junction. However, the West Roxbury history can be better covered in the Dedham Branch and Dedham station articles, and the latter branch on Norfolk County Railroad and a bit on Dedham station, without sacrificing clarity to the average reader. Note also my comments on Talk:Endicott station about appropriate levels of detail. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Poor grammar
[edit]Since when is including matching commas after a state name poor grammar? You can find a rule to do exactly this in many grammar and style guides, e.g. Rule 10 at this page or Rule 5 in the box in this book; or this one. Dicklyon (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- You are correct, my apologies. It looked incorrect to me because the additional commas seem to set 'and Washington, D.C.' off in a separate clause, but apparently the rule overrides that. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:17, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Artificial leather?
[edit]Hello Sir, Greetings! as long as the addition in [4] i feel this is certainly not any spam. Its scientific research based authentic information (with proper citations) purely related to the topic Artificial leather. Kindly have second thought on it. Regards --Ygdes (talk) 10:30, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- You are repeatedly adding someone's research (possibly yours?) to multiple articles without regard to how it actually fits into the article. That's a form of spam. Additionally, your references are not formatted, your grammar is poor, and your assumption of my gender insulting. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 11:03, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- 1st of all, please don't take it insulting if your ID is not obvious but figurative. Except some exceptions, obviously no one can be here with perfections. Any person good in grammar doesn't mean or prove that he/she is very good editor, Good editor know how to take the cream from the available contents in various inputs. Editor also know how to make the things relevant with wider vision. ... I wont contest or argue with you, because i am not here with any intention or target. Take care. Rgds --Ygdes (talk) 19:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Pi.1415926535, you were reviewing this GA nomination, and there hasn't been a post there since June 2. In case you'd forgotten about it, I thought I'd ping you to see if it can start progressing again. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I grew very tired of the nominator's refusal to take my suggestions, particularly those to make the article more readable to a wide audience and more editable by anyone besides him, in favor of preserving what he saw as his perfect version of the article. I don't have any interest in continuing to waste my time being condescended to by the nominator, nor do I wish to promote to GA an article that (while otherwise very good) fails Wikipedia's basic principles of being read and edited by everyone. I am happy to abdicate the review to another editor if that is preferable. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:10, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Pi.1415926535, I'm sorry it wasn't an enjoyable experience. I'll see if I can find someone else to take over. Thanks for letting me know. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Discontinued Amtrak routes' route diagram template maintenance
[edit]Thank you for cleaning up the route map for Amtrak's Pioneer route. I updated the route map so the header of the template on the finished map would be in Amtrak Heritage Blue when not embedded in an infobox. Unfortunately, with the change in the source code style for the RDTs a while ago, I had to change the source code of the header to work with the BS-map style source code, which messed up the diagrams a bit by making the source code of the header visible only when the map is part of an infobox. However, when the RDT is standing alone, the maps look fine. For the routes listed below, I have two favors to ask. 1) Can you please check the route maps embedded within the infoboxes within those routes' articles, for cleanup, and fix the problems I mentioned above for those that need it. 2) Can you also please change the headers to Amtrak heritage blue for the same routes listed below that currently don't have that color (some currently do and some don't). Copy and paste the following formatting to the appropriate line in the source code to achieve the color: 00537E:
List of routes: Atlantic City Express, Blue Ridge, Broadway Limited, Calumet, Cape Codder, Chesapeake, Desert Wind, Fort Pitt, Hilltopper, Lake Cities, Lake Shore, Montrealer, Mountaineer, National Limited, Niagara Rainbow, North Coast Hiawatha, Pioneer, River Cities, Shenandoah,
Thank you for taking the time to do this. I'm still learning the new formatting for route maps, and don't want to mess them up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wof2500 (talk • contribs)
- No problem. I'll try to get to them this weekend. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:11, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- My status so far. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- {{Amtrak Atlantic City Express}}: fixed header color
Done
- {{Amtrak Blue Ridge}} fixed header color
Done
- {{Broadway Limited (Amtrak) Route}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Calumet}} fixed header color and links
Done
- {{Amtrak Cape Codder}} fixed header color and links
Done
- {{Amtrak Chesapeake}} fixed header color and links
Done
- {{Amtrak Desert Wind}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Fort Pitt}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Hilltopper}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Lake Cities}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Lake Shore}} fixed header color
Done
- {{Amtrak Lone Star}} fixed header color and links
Done
- {{Amtrak Montrealer}} fixed header color
Done
- {{Amtrak Mountaineer}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak National Limited}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Niagara Rainbow}} fixed header color and links
Done
- {{Amtrak North Coast Hiawatha}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak North Star}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Pioneer}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak River Cities}} fixed header color and links
Done
- {{Amtrak Shenandoah}} fixed links; still needs header fix
Partly done
- {{Amtrak Atlantic City Express}}: fixed header color
- My status so far. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Wof2500: I'm honestly not sure how to fix the header issues on the templates that still use BS-map. I think the best solution is for me to convert them to routemap, which has much better header formatting. Do you object? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:00, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Wof2500: I've done all I can for now. If you don't object in the next few days, I'll convert the BS maps to routemap so I can fix the headers. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of List of Rhode Island Public Transit Authority routes for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Rhode Island Public Transit Authority routes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Rhode Island Public Transit Authority routes until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ajf773 (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Joliet Transportation Center
[edit]I have responded on my "Talk" page to your friendly suggestion. Best wishes, Bigturtle (talk) 22:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Station disruptive edits
[edit]Blocked 69.113.128.0/21 which covers the last four IPs from 69.113.x.x -- ferret (talk) 00:49, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you so much!! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:54, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
In use template
[edit]Sorry if I have caused you frustration. Which article was this on? Sometimes when using Disamassist you are only presented with a small section of the text (with the dab links) & don't see the whole page until after the edit has been saved.— Rod talk 20:54, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- No worries! It was on Colonial (Amtrak train). I've left a note for the script author to see if they can add a warning if "in use" is present. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Colonial (Amtrak train)
[edit]On 25 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Colonial (Amtrak train), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Colonial replaced a train that often could not fill a single passenger car? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Colonial (Amtrak train). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Colonial (Amtrak train)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
All caps?
[edit]Hi. What happened here? --MarchOrDie (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2018 (UTC) And I note your hostile comment and edit summary here, too. If editing Wikipedia makes you angry, maybe you're doing it wrong? But let's take this to a central discussion, for now on the capitalisation. I'd hate to see another central discussion about your behaviour. Let's try to avoid that. --MarchOrDie (talk) 23:52, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- You are repeatedly changing style templates, in a manner that I and other believe is a total misinterpretation of the MOS and rather disruptive, even after being reverted. An absolutist interpretation of the MOS (which the MOS itself suggests is not desirable) is not correct here. And what do you mean by "another"? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Silver Line Edit
[edit]Hello, you undid my edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silver_Line_(MBTA)&oldid=prev&diff=855558645 However, my information was practical. As a tourist, it was important to know the order of the stops of SL1 and what they were. That information is not on the page. I'm fine with a different solution, but please look at the page again -- while the stops are listed in various ways on the page, there is nothing showing clearly what I was conveying -- the stops and their order for SL1, which is what a tourist usually takes from the airport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashi Starshade (talk • contribs) 18:39, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a travel guide. There is also a route diagram already in the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Street suffix
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An article that you have been involved in editing—Street suffix—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. CapnZapp (talk) 10:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Re: NYNHH style
[edit]I've seen mostly red signs with white and the logo, particularly around Connecticut. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 19:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Mostly like this. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 19:56, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Mitchazenia: That Derby-Shelton sign that you linked has the same black-on-white that I mentioned. I can't find a single grey-on-red sign anywhere. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I'm not gifted in coding. If you can fix it so its red on the left then the black on white, go ahead and fix it. I came up with what I could based on the Cannondale signs and that one I just linked. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 22:39, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh that and photos of Noroton Heights station on iridetheharlemline is also full red. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 22:40, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll see if I can figure out how to do that. Trying to left-align the NH would be tricky; most cases that its done seem to use separate templates like {{MUNI infobox header}} @Cards84664: Any chance you could help? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:49, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- I fixed most of it. Just the red box needs to be handled and I'm not gifted enough to figure it out. (Also, the ping doesn't work for me.) Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 05:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- You might want to take another look at the MOS allcaps discussion, a user just suggested that we should eliminate all styling per WP:GAME among other things, and that users who use styling "trickery" should leave Wikipedia and "go start your own blog". Cards84664 (talk) 05:29, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know why it's trickery, but regardless, until this is outlawed, let's figure out how to fix my issue. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 05:30, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- So which one specifically are you trying to fix? The White on Black with the White logo on Red on the left? Cards84664 (talk) 05:46, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- I got most of it. I just need instead of two red lines, just a red box on the left. (The NH logo is copyrighted). See my example above from Derby-Shelton station. (Also, I voted in the discussion.) Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 05:47, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- So which one specifically are you trying to fix? The White on Black with the White logo on Red on the left? Cards84664 (talk) 05:46, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know why it's trickery, but regardless, until this is outlawed, let's figure out how to fix my issue. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 05:30, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- The logo is definitely PD-textlogo. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Is it? We already have a fair use logo in the main NYNH&H article. I mean, the font exists if we want to use it. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 05:56, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- The logo is definitely PD-textlogo. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
File:New york new haven hartford.gif is under fair use, though an argument exists for it being PD-textlogo, and it may be PD by age as well. However, station signs used the much simpler 2-letter logo which is unquestionably PD. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- This is the one I was referring to. I don't know how if this is fair use, then the NH in the station signs isn't. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 06:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- That file shouldn't be fair use - it's definitely PD, and I'll transfer it to Commons at some point. We also already have this PD logo on Commons, though we'd want a derivative version with a clear background. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:05, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The easiest way would be to upload the red on white logo as shown in the image, and then I could reskin {{Metrorail infobox header}}. Cards84664 (talk) 06:07, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not much of an artist, maybe Pi can. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 22:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Protect Page: NJ Transit Rail Operations
[edit]Please protect the page NJ Transit Rail Operations, or, if you aren't an admin on Wikipedia, ask someone to protect that page. There is an IP user who keeps editing the page with unreliable information, and I am sick and tired of trying to get the user to stop. I already warned him about it, but I don't think he is listening. --Davidng913 (talk) 21:17, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Davidng913: WP:RFPP Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:24, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Will use. —Davidng913 (talk) 22:56, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Type 9 Green Line car edit
[edit]My addition on the Dec. 21 start of service was intended for the Green Line Extension article. You were right to remove it from the Green Line article. I've put it where I think it belongs. Some rebalancing between the GLX section of the Green Line (MBTA) article and the main article may be needed. It seems to me any info on construction progress belong in the main article.--agr (talk) 00:12, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- No problem. I'll probably do some major edits on the two articles when the station designs are finalized and heavy construction begins; I did a lot of GLX history research when writing my thesis. (Right now I'm working on the "B" Branch article). I'm not sure how much information (if any) on the Type 9s belongs on the GLX article - while they were bought to allow the extension service, they're going into service long before it. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- The cars are the first public benefit of the project, so i think a mention is appropriate. Have you seen this:
- It has some interesting details, such as the bridge closings, which might be included.--agr (talk) 18:15, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Fair point. And thanks for that document - it'll definitely come in handy. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Unused highway lists
[edit]It's late here and I have some other stuff in the morning, so I will probably get you those deleted lists later tomorrow or Sunday. I'll post a note here to tell you when it is done. --RL0919 (talk) 08:10, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I let this slide for a while, but the lists are now userfied at User:Pi.1415926535/List of unused highways in California, User:Pi.1415926535/List of unused highways in Connecticut, and (in case you couldn't guess) User:Pi.1415926535/List of unused highways in Massachusetts. --RL0919 (talk) 22:53, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much!! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Line
[edit]Is that a new thing? The services field is an add-on that enables prev and next station. I haven't seen line used for anything except identifying what line the station is on. An example on the WikiProject page shows it that way too. Is there somewhere else that explains how to use each field? I don't see how the Blue Line isn't a physical railway line. Grk1011 (talk) 01:05, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's been used that way for a few years. It became clearly that using the line parameter for named services had two problems. One, with the s-rail templates made for every named service, listing them in the line parameter is entirely duplicative. Two, for stations with numerous services, it adds a lot of length to the infobox.
- With a lot of modern transit lines, the infrastructure doesn't have a name separate from the service. But legacy transit systems almost always do. In this case, the Blue Line is a named service that runs on the East Boston Tunnel and the Revere Extension. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Line descriptions for BART lines
[edit]I noticed that you reverted my edits on two of six articles describing the Bay Area Rapid Transit lines. I honestly don't see anything not useful about it; many articles for individual rail lines for respective transit authorities have this description. I am open to adding citations, even if I have to find old BART maps or more to confirm that the descriptions are needed. Thank you. GETONERD84 (talk) 01:03, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- They're basically just railfan cruft / travel guides - note how many such articles have paragraphs and paragraphs of description that aren't remotely useful to the average reader. I am open to having short and useful descriptions of the routes, but they need to be written from the perspective that these are services that run on pieces of infrastructure - they are not railway lines in and of themselves. Additionally, such details as "For 43 years, it was the longest serving original BART line not to have been extended." are completely irrelevant trivia.
- "The Richmond–Warm Springs/South Fremont line runs primarily northwest-southeast though the East Bay. It uses the R-Line between Richmond station and just north of MacArthur station, the K-Line between there and the Oakland Wye, the A-Line between the Wye and Fremont station, and the S-Line between Fremont and Warm Springs/South Fremont station. Most sections are at-grade or elevated; the line runs through tunnels in downtown Berkeley, downtown Oakland, and under Lake Elizabeth." That's all that's really necessary on the articles about the services.
- It might be worthwhile eventually to create List of BART lines or whatnot with a few paragraphs each about the A-Line, C-Line, etc. That would be the place to discuss what services use what tracks on sections with more than 2 tracks, where trackage is elevated, and so on. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Balboa Park station
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Balboa Park station you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of WelpThatWorked -- WelpThatWorked (talk) 20:00, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Balboa Park station
[edit]The article Balboa Park station you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Balboa Park station for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of WelpThatWorked -- WelpThatWorked (talk) 16:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
International
[edit]I can't review this because of past involvement, but if I were reviewing it I'd probably auto-fail it for the two unsourced paragraphs in CN/GTW operation :). Mackensen (talk) 13:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Oops, I completely forgot about those. I found this source which should let me rewrite them well. Do you have any others to recommend (particularly that give a start date)? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:57, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Only Sanders' earlier work on passenger trains in Indiana, which does, happily, have the start date. I have surprisingly little on the GTW. Mackensen (talk) 16:29, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Whew, that was a lot of writing on an era and area that aren't my expertise. Any further improvements you have to offer between your Herculean adjacent stations conversion would be welcomed. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 09:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Only Sanders' earlier work on passenger trains in Indiana, which does, happily, have the start date. I have surprisingly little on the GTW. Mackensen (talk) 16:29, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
NETransit
[edit]I trust Netransit myself, but does it meet WP:Reliability? As the person who brought the list to FL status, I'm hesitant to introduce sources that might affect that status. Was this discussed somewhere before? I'm sure you've probably used it on some of the articles you brought to GA status. Grk1011 (talk) 01:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's been briefly noted in a couple of the GA reviews, but never as a major issue. Belcher and several other major contributors are closely associated with the BSRA, and it originated as a BSRA Rollsign; the next time I happen to email him, I'll ask why the document isn't hosted directly on the BSRA website. He and others have published works by the BSRA and other organizations (Humphreys, notably, as a state-level transportation planner); RS tends to look more favorably on self-published sources when they're by an author as a companion or side project to their published works. You're definitely right that it shouldn't be the only source for a whole section of a FL, but it does serve as a conveniently-online source to complement the offline sources. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:14, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Balboa Park station
[edit]On 3 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Balboa Park station, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the walls of Balboa Park station have "an apparently infinite variety" of patterns? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Balboa Park station. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Balboa Park station), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.